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alright so if I eat 1600 calories and then burn 300 that is exactly the same thing as if I just ate 1300 cals??  For some reason I always feel better and feel like I lose better from just eating less without the exercise...what do you guys think?

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Haha, I always feel better without the exercise: I am not one of those people who feels AMAZING and ENERGIZED and WHOAH LETS GO RUN MARATHONS after the gym. I feel like death. Hot, sticky, sweaty death. And every time is the Absolute Last Time I'm Doing That ****, I Swear To God. The gym sucks. It sucks hardddddddd.

Except the reality is that the exercise is absolutely necessary to build up your metabolism by building up your muscle fibres.

(gym=sucks harddddddddddddddddd)

Eating less helps you feel better in the short run , a combination of both eating less and exercise will help you a)feel better and b)BE better in the long run.

Mostly because abstaining from eating is a hell of a lot easier than feeling all successful after crawling into your bed sobbing because you pulled your bad knee on the treadmill, AGAIN, **** it.

Oh well.

[Insert comment about necessary evils here]

hahaha well you just basically summed up exactly how I feel!  I guess as long as I know there is other people out there struggling like I do to work out it makes me feel better...actually a little more motivated to go get on that treadmill-thanks!

well, it is easier actually, to lose weight by cutting the calories, especially if your daily calorie allowance for maintenance is high enough for your to have a 500cal (or in your case, 300cal) deficit without having to go lower than 1200calories/day (for women). Put it this way. Drinking water/tea instead of carbonated/flavoured drinks saves you a whopping 200cals. Abstaining from that chocolate bar after lunch saves you another 250. And you're done for the day. Conversely, you'll need to jog for an hour to burn the same number of calories. Ouch.

So why exercise? Here are some good reasons...

1. Exercise is a good distraction from eating

If, whenever i feel like binging, i go take a long walk or a jog, i end up saving calories instead of frittering them away... and somehow, cravings disappear after i ignore them... unless of course, it's not craving that i'm experiencing, but genuine hunger.

2. Exercise helps improve your emotional and physical well being. (general fitness)

Exercise releases hormones (endorphins, seretonin, etc.). It helps regulate your moods... Also, being physically healthy also makes you more likely to be comfortable in your own skin (what with clearer complexion, more muscle tone, and other ego-boosting things). Besides, it's not fun to be get winded after climbing a flight of stairs...

3. Exercise is vital for sustained weighloss

A rather slim actress (in her late 40s) was asked in an interview once, 'so how do you maintain your slim physique?' and her reply jarred me a little. 'I've never felt full in the past 20 years.' A theory goes that our bodies has a set point, and that if you eat when you're hungry and just enough to feel full, then your body will automatically maintain it's weight at that set point. Apparently, exercise helps to reduce that set point. Besides, it increases muscle mass, boosts your metabolism, and allows you to eat more each day, and still maintain your weight. And face it, just how many of us are going to eat nothing but cabbages our entire lives just to be (and stay) thin...? (I'm exaggerating, but the point remains).

4. Exercise helps you alter your body composition, not just your weight

It's great to just lose weight, when you're overweight, or obese. It's the first step to better health... but after you hit the 'normal' or 'ideal' BMI range, what happens? Well, one thing to note is how the 'normal BMI range' or 'overweight BMI' is actually derived. It's not so much your weight, per se, but the correlation between people of that weight and their %body fat. The bottomline is, you can be skinny, and still unhealthily 'fat'. Exercise builds muscle, burns fat, and keeps you fit and toned. It's possible to be heavy and nonetheless, in the pink of health, with exercise.


The mentality of dieter, sometimes, is this: I'll cut out all the junk in my life, get skinny, and after that I can eat like normal again.

Well, the bad news is this: if you do that, you're likely to regain all the lost weight (and more) after your diet, albeit gradually (so you'll stay skinny for a while). What happens is that you'll gain weight until you reach a weight where the lifestyle that you choose will be maintained.  Exercise is part of a healthier lifestyle. It's tough to keep up, and easy to step away from it.... But an exercise-free life has its consequences. (My uncle can't walk 200m without getting exhausted.) So, do try to press on. If not exercise, at least stay moderately active! (: If you find it hard to 'exercise' (like go out and jog etc.) try to incorporate it into your daily routine instead! (Like walking with a bounce in your step, doing calf raisers while you're making your coffee, taking a stroll with loved ones after dinner, going shopping, volunteering to carry your 2 year old nephew, etc.) Who says exercise has to be a chore?

for the first time in my life, i've become one of those people who gets twitchy and cranky if i go two days without exercise.  i love feeling strong, and the stronger i get, the less i worry about how my body looks.  i'm pretty sure that if i just cut back on food and didn't exercise, i'd need to lose a lot more weight to feel as good about myself as i do now.  i can be 125 and scrawny or i can be 135 and fit.  i'll take the latter.

but i don't go to gyms and i don't use machines.  for me, it's all about getting outside.
yes it does matter how much you eat...
the difference is between becomming handicapped and not becoming handicapped.

losing weight means catabolizing your body, and catabolizing your body means taking off whatever is unnecassery.. and that means that if you don't do excercise you'll become a sleepy energyless couch hugging handicapped person... =]

Na you won't become handicapped, but your posture combined with low energy levels will make you pretty (right) ugly.
(sucks hardddddddddddddddddddddd)


doedoebird- thanks so much for all the advice about exercising.  It made me see it in a different light :)

Also keep in mind that when you excercise, your body will keep burning calories the rest of the day and night to repair those muscles. It also boosts your metabolism which causes you to burn more when you are sedentary as well as active.

I started exercising in July 2006.  At they gym.  For the first year and a half, I agreed with the OP and others who hated it.  I always felt a little better after it was over and I'd showered and had a little something to eat, but certainly not enough better to make it worth doing for that reason.  A year and a half is a long time to do something you hate.

I don't know what changed, but around the first of this year, it did.  Part of it is I found something I love:  running.  Indoor track on weekdays, 6:30 AM in the park on Saturdays.  THis is the first I've ever run, and I'm still 15 pounds overweight.  I'm horribly, terribly slow yet (running a 12 minute mile about kills me) but I love it.  Even on my non-running days, I like exercising now.  I WANT to.  Partly because I know it will all help me run better.  I get mad when life and prevents me from exercising or running.

So if you don't like it, keep looking for something that you like.  Keep trying different things, stick to each for a couple weeks and see if you take to it.  You might genuinely learn to like something after all.


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