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The Lounge Go USA! Marriage Equality for everyone. Jul 02 2015
16:43 (UTC)
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And now I also need my pretend future wedding to happen on the moon. :D

The Lounge Go USA! Marriage Equality for everyone. Jul 02 2015
16:03 (UTC)
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HA!! Not going to lie. If I ever get married again, I kind of want the Sexy Boat Captain, that strips to officiate. And some somber selections from The Village People - and maybe even the Pony Show with Jazz hands. Not so much on the public sex though.

The Lounge A flamboyant thread w/ razzle dazzle about the 2016 presidential primary elections Jul 02 2015
15:02 (UTC)
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I kind of liked that decision too, Cat. I'm hoping there isn't some nefarious subtext I'm missing, given that the case comes to us from Arizona.

The Lounge Go USA! Marriage Equality for everyone. Jul 02 2015
14:38 (UTC)
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I think candidates will milk the amendment idea, but I think counties will fall in line pretty quickly.

The Lounge A flamboyant thread w/ razzle dazzle about the 2016 presidential primary elections Jul 02 2015
14:27 (UTC)
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Original Post by nomoreexcuses:

It rarely wins general elections because it almost never is an option in the general election.

Whoever you elect, that's exactly who you elected. So don't complain that officials don't do the will of the people when you keep excluding those who would do the will of the people from the ballot.

Of course, it's a fair point that a president can't do that much if the legislature and most local governments are all captured by other interests.

I think it's a balancing act. I don't think it's a matter of refusing to do the will of the people, as much as it is who will come closest to doing it, and what the definition of that will is on any given issue.

I've long thought that the presidency is the correct place for a centrist, with the extremes represented in the legislature functioning as the balance. I'm trying to hold to that, trusting that the majority of people aren't really as BSC as pundits and social media suggests.

The Lounge A flamboyant thread w/ razzle dazzle about the 2016 presidential primary elections Jul 02 2015
13:10 (UTC)
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Yep. I am starting to wonder if the modern GOP even cares about the White House, as long as they can control so many states, and legislative bodies in the country.

Which might explain the applesauce-flavored jiggery-pokery that is the Republican list of candidates.

ETA: I have to add a troubling feeling about the Democrat side. If Bernie wins the nomination, he'll lose in the general. Abandoning pragmatism would be a mistake for the Democrats, IMO. And I say that agreeing with almost all of Bernie's positions.

The Lounge The Chat bone's connected to the back bone Jun 29 2015
13:56 (UTC)
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(((Pav)))

(((Deb)))

Sending out good vibes.

The Lounge women's world cup (soccer) Jun 29 2015
00:59 (UTC)
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Ah. That makes sense, although I do wonder if they would have found a natural turf solution if it was Men's World Cup. A shame no other countries bid on the women. That sucks worse than skinned knees.

The Lounge women's world cup (soccer) Jun 28 2015
12:54 (UTC)
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Not closely, no. But I remain pissed that the women are being forced, by FIFA, to play on astro-turf. :(

The Lounge Go USA! Marriage Equality for everyone. Jun 26 2015
17:21 (UTC)
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:D

The Lounge Go USA! Marriage Equality for everyone. Jun 26 2015
16:35 (UTC)
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“Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right.”

 

Right in the ****ing FEELS. ALL of them. I'm so happy and proud.

The Lounge Charleston Jun 24 2015
13:05 (UTC)
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Jesus. That made me weep. Thank you for posting it, Linden.

The Lounge I'll be working my way back to you Chat Jun 24 2015
12:46 (UTC)
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You got this Pavvy. (((Chat)))

The Lounge Charleston Jun 19 2015
13:32 (UTC)
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I consider him a radicalized extremist, just like Tsarnaev, and at this point, a political assassin.

The Lounge Black like me...... Jun 17 2015
20:39 (UTC)
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See. This is another reason why I'm pissed at her. Because now POTUS isn't really black, and FLOTUS just isn't black enough.

Jesus Croque Monsieur Christ.

 

The Lounge Black like me...... Jun 17 2015
20:09 (UTC)
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He just wanted to quote me before I corrected my misuse of 'imminently'. Well-played, sir.

The Lounge Black like me...... Jun 17 2015
19:27 (UTC)
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Original Post by lysistrata:

Original Post by kathygator:

I think the difference is slavery. No other culture in our country is rooted in actual human bondage. I think Ms. Cobb makes that point. And maybe even worse is that we ended it with civil war. Not an argument in front of the Supreme Court, as should have been the case, but by the death of hundreds of thousands.

It could be argued that the Irish experience of indentured servitude perhaps come close. And Native culture does too, I think. But there was never an institutionalized treatment of either Native or Irish people as traded goods.

Well, it sort of did go to the Supreme Court, and didn't end very well.

I should have said 'We did not resolve the issue in alignment with our purported ideals, consistent with the promise of this country inherent in our own Declaration of Independency, that all men are created equal, as should have been the case...'.

'kay?

The Lounge Black like me...... Jun 17 2015
19:22 (UTC)
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As Santo said Bork, neither of us is aware of what Michelle may or may not have experienced in her formative years. What you and I both know for certain is the color of her skin, all her life. Does that make her eminently more qualified to speak about the black experience than Dolezal? I think the answer is yes.

The Lounge Black like me...... Jun 17 2015
19:10 (UTC)
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I think the difference is slavery. No other culture in our country is rooted in actual human bondage. I think Ms. Cobb makes that point. And maybe even worse is that we ended it with civil war. Not an argument in front of the Supreme Court, as should have been the case, but by the death of hundreds of thousands.

It could be argued that the Irish experience of indentured servitude perhaps come close. And Native culture does too, I think. But there was never an institutionalized treatment of either Native or Irish people as traded goods.

The Lounge Black like me...... Jun 17 2015
18:33 (UTC)
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Thanks, Nomo. Good read.

No Bork, it would not similarly piss me off, because there isn't a lie in your scenario.

And I have to add that citing a first lady who has been the subject of an obscene amount of viral racism since her husband took office is probably not your best example of 'not all black women'.

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