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Calorie Count help me find my friend Dec 11 2015
01:03 (UTC)
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Funny, I was just looking for someone myself.. If you click on your own avi,,, you get your profile screen... There is a place to lookup friends, a green box that says find friends.. give it a try...

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 10 2015
12:16 (UTC)
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Original Post by dbackerfan:

Original Post by catwalker:

Why, all of a sudden, are people expecting neighbors, family, friends to pick up the phone and call the police about "suspicious" activity? No one made these statements when a white redneck shot up a church full of dark-skinned people. 

And "Blue Lives Matter" only when a Black person kills them

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/true-colo r-blue-lives-matter_565de1f9e4b079b2818beacd

Even less spoken about this man was a pastor at his church and gunned down by a "Christian".  why do we only care about "radicals" when they are not white and not "Christian"?

 

What and when something is identified as a hate crime (with a racial basis) is something that is very puzzling.  It all goes back to the media.     If a bunch of white kids beat up a black kid, or  bunch of black kids beat up a white kid, in the real world, what is more likely to make the news?  Both of these events might have been hate crimes, or they might have been a fight over an I phone or a new pair of sneakers.  The truth of what happened and why doesn't seem to matter any more, it is how it is portrayed by the media.

 

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 10 2015
12:05 (UTC)
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Original Post by linden:

Original Post by amwick:

Original Post by gotborked:

and even if we confiscated every last rifle, handgun, and knife...what would we do about their teeth?

And what about drunk drivers.  Confiscate cars??

Teeth and cars are useful for other things than killing people. In fact, they are essential to daily life. Guns are not, except for a vanishingly small minority of people.

Obviously no one can confiscate cars in general.  No one will ever call to bring back prohibition either.  Guns(for the most part) are not essential in this day and age, but they are a constitutional right,,, and maybe the constitution is essential.  Unless you want to dump that too.

 

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 10 2015
12:02 (UTC)
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Original Post by catwalker:

Why, all of a sudden, are people expecting neighbors, family, friends to pick up the phone and call the police about "suspicious" activity? No one made these statements when a white redneck shot up a church full of dark-skinned people. 

Ahhh well, wouldn't it have been better if someone had called, and that wingnut questioned. 

I don't know what is wrong with people taking some responsibility, at least making an effort.  It may not change anything, it may be a waste of time, then again it might save lives...

This is something each person has to decide for themselves.  Take a stand, make an effort or let it go...

The Lounge Budgets are sexy Dec 10 2015
11:47 (UTC)
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I don't know why, but this morning I woke up and thought about this thread.  What occurred to me is that it is something that parents need to teach their children.  Not being a parent, I am not sure how that would happen.  Especially now during the Christmas Holiday, where budgets many times just go out the window.  Good luck to all you parents out there.

I think how you handle money in general has a lot to do with the way you grew up.

 

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 09 2015
12:20 (UTC)
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Original Post by knowan:

 

I wonder how much of this is 20/20 hindsight and "hey, if I say this then I get to be on TV"?

I guess that is possible, but still, I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.  How would you feel if you had a gut feeling that something was really, really wrong, and you just let it slide?  Then 14 people are killed.  Not that people are often in a position to actually do something, something immediate to  help... and it seems that the attack was supposed to be much more deadly, that something may have been intended for a high school. 

Its like people who know a neighbor is beating the sht out of, oh, maybe a spouse, a child, or a dog even... ok, maybe you wouldn't confront a nut like that in person, probably a good idea (for your own safety) not to, but a phone call? 

 

 

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 09 2015
04:11 (UTC)
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Original Post by gotborked:

and even if we confiscated every last rifle, handgun, and knife...what would we do about their teeth?

And what about drunk drivers.  Confiscate cars??

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 09 2015
04:10 (UTC)
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Original Post by santonacci:

Original Post by amwick:

How about looking at something that might have prevented this terrible event.  A SINGLE PHONE CALL!   Instead of focusing on guns, which I suppose is inevitable, how about thinking about making a phone call if you see something suspicious, or have some concern.   If there is no illegal activity going on, there is no harm done.  People will call if they see someone driving erratically, weaving in and out of lanes,  that does happen.    Calling about a wingnut, doing strange things (making bombs) in a garage, at all hours, that puts people on edge.  It doesn't have to be the FBI, just call your local Police Department. 

What makes you think that, in this particular case, neighbors had any idea what was going on in a closed off basement?  Are they supposed to randomly snoop around, or just politely ask to see the inside of everyone's garage on a periodic basis?

Because, you know, it's not like they anything else to do - kids can take care of themselves and what else are they going to do with their vacation time?

But be careful with the  "if you see something, say something" thing - it can turn out to be flat out embarrassing.  (eta:  and "no harm done" is not how I would  describe it)

I heard reports on tv(more than once) that neighbors were suspicious but did not call, for fear of causing problems, of being accused of racism... They have to live with that, and I feel a little sorry for them. 

 here is just one article..

and then there is Fox

One phone call might have saved many lives...

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The Lounge Santa Clause is coming... to CHAT Dec 08 2015
13:59 (UTC)
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The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 08 2015
13:56 (UTC)
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How about looking at something that might have prevented this terrible event.  A SINGLE PHONE CALL!   Instead of focusing on guns, which I suppose is inevitable, how about thinking about making a phone call if you see something suspicious, or have some concern.   If there is no illegal activity going on, there is no harm done.  People will call if they see someone driving erratically, weaving in and out of lanes,  that does happen.    Calling about a wingnut, doing strange things (making bombs) in a garage, at all hours, that puts people on edge.  It doesn't have to be the FBI, just call your local Police Department. 

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 08 2015
11:58 (UTC)
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Original Post by kevinatthebrook:

Original Post by knowan:

It's not assault rifles that you need to worry about.  It's hand guns.  Shooting deaths from assault rifles are just a tiny fraction of of the number from handguns.

How tiny a number?  Around 10%.

Ban handguns (impossible to enforce) and you'll prevent/discourage over 6,000 annual murders.  Ban all rifles and shotguns and you'll prevent around 700.

Ban knives and you'll prevent around 1,800.

And that's just the homicide numbers.  Once you factor in suicides and accidental deaths the handgun number more than triples while the rifle/shotgun number barely budges.

It's not assault rifles that you need to worry about, it's handguns.

 

Is there data available regarding what percentage of hand gun deaths were caused by licensed guns? Pretty sure banning hand guns won't be much of a bother to those with ill intent.

No, it won't, and it seems to me it never has.   It will piss a bunch of law abiding people off big time, and put them in danger. 

I wonder if this is true,, gun homicides are going down as gun owndership goes up, since 1993...   I would have to look around for the stat you want, but I would want to know about homicides/murders, not accidents. 

So this is as close as I could come..  If you read through the article, there is an update from last February...  out of about 300000 crimes involving a gun, 5000 were legally purchased and used by the offender.

BTW, the terrorists in San Bernardino received a $28500 deposit in November.  They were being financed by someone.  How is restricting handguns going to stop this level of terrorism?

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The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 07 2015
23:56 (UTC)
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Original Post by lysistrata:

Handguns are more ubiquitous but rifles are far more lethal.  The San Bernardino shooters shot 76 rounds and killed 14 people; that's a 20% fatality rate, which is crazy high - compare to a handgun where it's not uncommon to empty the magazine and the person still survives.  Handguns are for stopping people, rifles are for ending them.  If the point of talking about gun control now is to avoid more mass incidents like in San Bernardino (and Aurora, and Columbine, and DC, and Sandy Hook ... I could go on), long guns should really be the focus.

I believe that those weapons were modified.  Very few people have what amounts to machine guns.  Semi automatic weapons, yes, but not fully automatic.  The modifications were illegal.  

 

 

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 07 2015
13:58 (UTC)
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Original Post by barbarjinx:

 

My sympathy for that child does not negate my sympathy for the others.  That's why I wrote "another innocent victim in this tragedy".  I assumed that my sympathy for all of those impacted was certainly implied in that statement. 

And yes, that child is too young to grasp what happened, but all she will comprehend as much as any small baby can, is that her parents aren't here any more.  And someday, she may learn what they did and that too will be very sad. (Assuming she is raised to see such things as evil.) 

So many posts expressed sympathy for this child, very few mentioned the family of the victims.   I hope, I sincerely hope, that she is raised in a loving family, and never, ever find out about how her parents died.

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 07 2015
13:55 (UTC)
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Original Post by santonacci:

Original Post by amwick:

Thank you Lys... that was a very informative summary..

Instead of focusing on gun control, how about looking at the process that allowed a terrorist into the US?    Malik's background is still really fuzzy, if that is even her real name.

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More information is being discovered about her, but it's still unclear to me what could have been done with the current process that might have prevented this.  However, they are looking into it.

What a horrible price to pay.

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 05 2015
12:26 (UTC)
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Thank you Lys... that was a very informative summary..

Instead of focusing on gun control, how about looking at the process that allowed a terrorist into the US?    Malik's background is still really fuzzy, if that is even her real name.

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The Lounge Budgets are sexy Dec 04 2015
13:12 (UTC)
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Original Post by barbarjinx:

In all seriousness, really trying to focus on better budgeting at home.

I like Dave Ramsey's envelope concept. 

Put budgeted $ for gas, groceries, entertainment (basically the non-billable items in your life) in an envelope on pay day and when it's gone, it's gone.  No using credit or your bank card.

It's not easy, but using cash helps me focus on what I'm spending versus using my bank card.  Watching the cash physically disappear has a much different impact on how/why I spend. 

 

That is a great idea.  Dh said that he did it for a long, long time..  It is harder to do if you have your income direct deposited..

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 04 2015
13:09 (UTC)
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Original Post by barbarjinx:

Original Post by supergirl77:

Original Post by lysistrata:

Original Post by supergirl77:

suspects

I don't think it will ever be clear whether this was a terrorist attack or just a case of psychotic workplace revenge.

And I don't believe that stricter gun control laws or background checks would have prevented this particular incident as there is nothing in this guys history that would preclude him from buying weapons legally (as far as I know).

Regardless, guns are for the military and the police. Nobody else should be armed. You can argue about hunting, but that strikes me as senseless killing as well.

Maybe I'm just trying to make sense of the nonsensical?

 *puts on tinfoil hat*

I think they will figure out motive very quickly.  I was surprised at how fast FBI and HS were on the scene there.  It makes me wonder if perhaps this gentleman was on a watch list.  His house, his computers, his social connections, his work connections, everything is going to be explored down to the barest minutiae.  The police chief made what I thought was an excellent point at the 10pm press conference when asked if it looked planned, which is that there was obviously some level of planning because they had the weapons and the body armor and the explosives and stuff available to them so this was obviously not just a spur of the moment impulsive act.  My personal hypothesis is that this guy was radicalized and part of a terror cell, but this was not the planned act of terror - he did this on his own for some personal reason.

I listened to the press conference about an hour ago. He was not a person of interest. And there was some significant planning that went into the event. There were some bombs (attached to a remote control car) that either failed or they did not get a chance to set off. Also, something like 14 more pipe bombs were found in their garage along with tools required to build bombs.....

Sadly, there isn't much we can do to prevent these incidents as individual and the best we can do is go about our life and hope for the best.

This seems to speak of a bigger plan which is very disturbing.  

And as to the potential terrorism connection, one report (from CNN, I think) said he'd been in contact with people on a watch list.  That info hasn't been officially verified though. 

I hadn't heard about their child.  They were evil folks to have done this, but that poor baby...my heart hurts for him/her.  Another innocent victim in this tragedy. 

What about the children of the victims?  That baby is too young to understand what happened.  The older children that lost parents just had their world turned upside down. 

The Lounge Another mass shooting. :-( Dec 04 2015
12:54 (UTC)
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Original Post by supergirl77:

suspects

I don't think it will ever be clear whether this was a terrorist attack or just a case of psychotic workplace revenge.

And I don't believe that stricter gun control laws or background checks would have prevented this particular incident as there is nothing in this guys history that would preclude him from buying weapons legally (as far as I know).

Regardless, guns are for the military and the police. Nobody else should be armed. You can argue about hunting, but that strikes me as senseless killing as well.

Maybe I'm just trying to make sense of the nonsensical?

Do you still fell that this was workplace revenge?  I don't.  This was an act of terrorism, plain and simple.   The more information that comes out, the clearer it becomes.  It does seem that this couple kinda jumped into the attack, and that they were planning something far, far worse.   The other scary thing is that Malik was vetted and given a fiancée visa.  \

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The Lounge Not so Affordable Dec 02 2015
15:23 (UTC)
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Original Post by supergirl77:

Yep, it definitely sucks donkey balls.

Unless you qualify for medicaid or a subsidy you are paying more for lower quality coverage. Despite expanding coverage, our options have dwindled in terms of which medical professionals we can choose.

So much for the promise of being able to keep your doctor!

I too hope that there is some serious reform with the next "regime."

This is what I want too, but I am not sure the ACA can be reformed/fixed.  And, if it is somehow repealed, what would happen?  Health Insurance in the USA is like humpty dumpty. 

BTW I lost my Blue Cross Plan, and the closest ACA metal plan was twice as much, with a 3x deductible, and no office visit copays.  Essentially everything was out of pocket.

At the same time I got married so I was able to go on DH's plan as a spouse.  Still we are waiting for the next shoe to fall.  Our Long Term Care insurance just went up a whopping 60%. 

The Lounge Fly me to the Moon and let me play amongst the CHAT Nov 26 2015
17:48 (UTC)
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*covers chat with a blankie...*

We are off for our own celebration.  Be safe peeps.

'later.

 

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