I would love to know this answer...
I also would like to know how you determined your loss/gain...before and after submersion tests? MRI?
It's impossible to gain that much muscle in 1 week! I'm in the gym 5 nights a week lifting hard and heavy and I don't think I"ve gained 6.5 lbs of muscle this year!
I guess this could be wrong, I'm not sure, its just what she showed me. I did really push myself, working out cardio 6 hours that week and 3 personal training appointments and counting calories.
To quote myself from another thread:
Original Post by melkor:So it's vaguely possible if you're regaining old muscle mass and working intense weight sessions with no cardio. But by cardio alone?
Isn't the max for drug-free male athletes 28.03 grams of new muscle mass a day? I've misplaced the reference now, but it was a paper by someone from the UCLA sports medicine department discussing the biochemical limit for muscle growth due to protein synthesis capacity in the body. If that's wrong I'd love to find out - it would mean I could add more than about 15-20 pounds of muscle in a year without resorting to chemical assistance.
Females would have to have a lower rate than that - not enough testosterone :) And as far as I know women primarily add muscle through IGF-1 and growth hormone which are significantly less effective than testosterone-fuelled muscle growth. Well, women do have some testosterone produced through the adrenal glands, but it's nowhere near a male level.
'Course, the biocemichal limit can't be all there is to it. Otherwise you wouldn't have anecdotal evidence like what Arthur Jones did for Casey Viator in about a month:Viatorā??s body weight increased from 166.87 to 212.15 pounds, for an overall gain of 45.28 pounds. Body-composition analysis revealed that Viator had actually built 63.21 pounds of muscle, since he had lost 17.93 pounds of fat.Jones was always careful to point out that Viator was rebuilding previously existing level of muscular sizeā??but even so, such a rate of increase was nothing short of remarkable.Jones swore Viator wasn't on steroids - so this indicates to me that at least some people under some circumstances can transcend what sports medicine says ought to be possible, but so far the how and the why of it seems more like guesswork than science.
Though for most people, it looks to me as if you add a quarter pound of muscle in a week you're doing good.
Probably not. Most likely your personal trainer made a mistake.
I know for fact that the even serious body builders have a hard time putting on more than 4 lbs a month in muscle, and that is with ALL day training and supplements etc.
But I have to say to pheonix rising- why would you call someone a Liar? that is just uncalled for! He's skeptical himself- that's why he's on this site asking these questions!
Good luck Mike, keep up the good work, it may not be the outstanding results your trainer is saying it is- but you are most definitely going to see great results!
Weight start 176, now 175 &nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp;
Overall body fat % start 36.2%, now 32.2%
lbs of fat mass start 63.71, now 56.35 (loss of 7.36 lbs)
lbs lean mass start 112.29, now 118.65 (gain of 6.36 lbs)
neck start 12.75, now 12.5
arm start 11.75, now 11.25
chest start 35.5, now 35.5
waist start 33, now 33
hip start 40, now 40
thigh start 22.25, now 21.5
calf start 15.5, now 15.5
What are your thoughts?
Try this home test, or this one for body fat percentage. They're both wildly inaccurate, but using them you can work out your own trend lines since they're consistently wrong.
Something that can't be said for your trainer - and being inconsistently wrong is worse than useless. It leads to flawed calculations like what she's showed you - it's very improbably that a non-steroid-using female can add that much muscle in a week.
It's more likely just inaccuracies in the measurement of your body fat. It can vary depending on the time of you day, method used and experience of the person measuring.
caliper methods are only as accurate as the person who's giving you the test, It's a very innaccrate way of measurement in my opinion, take the bio-metrics test which is more accurate.
Only things to consider is you have to take the test after you wake up, after using the restroom before you eat or drink. This is what they use on the biggest loser tv show. http://www.amazon.com/Omron-HBF-306-Body-Fat- Analyzer/dp/B00006WNPU it's cheap and removes a lot of human error in testings.
Btw lean body mass doesn't mean muscle, when your first starting to workout people tend to get over joyed because they say WOW I lost 20pounds in a week, which is impossible out of pure water weight or out of surgery. A person just starting out will lose weight fast, cause they have a lot to lose.
The things to watch out for is most people are idiots when it comes to dieting and exercise, and most personal trainers are idiots where they don't let their clients know of good eating habits.
Here's a simple math that most uneducated people follow to lose weight while exercising.
average daily recommended calories is 2,000 calories per day
1 pound of fat = 3,500 calories
so if i cut out 500 calories per day that's 1 pound a week! perfect!
This math is technically not wrong if you really are the AVERAGE person. Many often being bigger, smaller, taller etc which is a huge factor in the amount of calories you should be taking in.
Also people don't realize that when you exercise you need to EAT MORE. Just cause it said you burned 100 calories in your treadmill workout DOES NOT MEAN that you only burned 100 calories. Your workout speeds up your metabolism for the next few hours burning more, also your body spends a lot more calories and nutrients to rebuild the muscles that were torn and broken down during your workout.
ALso the more muscle mass you attain, the more calories you will burn because you now need more calories and protein, because muscle takes more resources to maintain.
For a person who workouts often it's not unusual to see healthy number of calories go up to 3,000 calories per day and STILL see FAT loss is possible.
Some people who are ectomorphs who want to gain muscle has to intake 4,000 calories + a day.
You can't diet and exercise at the same time without eating more, it's like asking a car to drive faster and longer on the same tank of fuel. It just doesn't work. Although yes your body is more dynamic than a car. if your body isn't fed enough, guess where your body loves to get it's energy to rebuild your muscles? - after a certain point your body will stop using fat as a excess fuel, and when you build enough muscle mass it will switch to a superior source which is muscle itself.
So it breaks down muscles to repair muscles, kinda like borrowing money from peter to pay paul. It looks ok for the moment but you'll always stay in debt.
I'm not a professional but I must agree with the masses. This seems a bit impossible in such a short period of time. It's very difficult to gain muscle mass and to do it so quickly is even more difficult. The balance of food, exercise & strength training must all be in perfect sync to accomplish the results that you did. It's as though the solar system was in perfect alignment. Calipers are the least reliable method of measuring body fat, so this may be where the error is.
Keep working towards your goal and don't become discouraged if you find out that there was a mistake made by your trainer. Good Luck!
i had something similar happen to me, i used to weigh 193 and i went to 165 in a few months, and recently i joined kickboxing like 5 months ago. But i stepped up my training to 10 mins on the step climber, 30 mins of running/jogging nonstop at a rate of 5 mph and then five three minute rounds on the heavy munching bag followed by 10 minutes of weight lifting, i go home and come back to do a 1 hour round on the heavy punching bag in the afternoon. After a week or like ten days or so i went from 165 lbs to 170 lbs.I usually eat a bowl of cereal in the morning(Honey Nut Cheerios yum yum...) and then go workout at 10 get home and eat some chicken and rice with a lemonade and take a 1 hour nap wake up stretch and like two hours later i go back to do 1 hour of muay thai get home and eat dinner, usually it's something like the same as my lunch or so and then just eat an apple and go to bed. is it possible to gain 5 pounds of muscle like this in like a week or ten days?
I was wondering the same thing, because I exercised 6 days this week for about 45-60 minutes and ate around 1200-1350 calories a day, but I gained a pound. Could that be muscle or should I look further into my diet?
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