I'm starting it tomorrow. I'm at my wit's end.....I'm running almost 4 miles a day and eating less than my BMR and holding at 120-122.
I apologize that I didn't know where to post this....hope this was the right forum!
Please share your successes or failures with this program! Thanks!
I have tried weight watchers twice, and I did lose weight, but I gained it all back when I quit. I ended up quitting because it is so expensive, and buying a lot of their food wasn't teaching me how to stay on the plan.
Lots of luck to you.
I think weight watchers is a waste of money. I'm not going to lie, I lost about 20 pounds on it a few years back. But it completely altered my way of thinking about food until I became completely obsessed and spiraled out of control causing me to gain all that weight back.
They lure people in with their ideals of 'permanent weight loss' (I believe their latest slogan is something like 'take a break from dieting'. I'm finding all the tools I need on here. For free.
Maybe I should clarify... my friend is doing it now and has all the "tools" for it, I guess. (Slider scale, etc). I was just going to count points instead of calories for a while and see how it works (for free, lol). I already buy a lot of their frozen Smart Ones entrees, just because I take them to work each day if I don't have leftovers or something else quick that I can make instead of hitting up a fast food place across the street. :)
I guess I'm just doing the "gist" of Weight Watchers?
Peggy, did you buy the food both times you tried it or did you try it once without using their planned meals? Did it build any healthy patterns that you still follow, or would you agree with Summer about being obsessed with food?
And Summer, you mentioned that it made you obsessed with food, how so?
I'm really interested in both of your reactions to it, because many people that I've spoken to seem to rave about it. I'm also a little concerned because I tend to be super-obsessive about food and calories and working out as it is, and I'm not sure I really want to get any worse!! (I mean, the 2 lb. weight gain this week instead of the 2 lb. weight LOSS I was aiming for was my whole reason for opting for weight watchers for a while!!)
I still want to count calories while I'm doing it, mainly for comparison's sake. I want to see if what I've been eating vs. what I can eat on a points scale has any or no correlation. To me, it doesn't seem ALL that different than counting calories in the first place? It also seems that a lot of my friends that have done WW seem to do it, lose the weight, stop, gain it back, repeat....in a vicious cycle.
Well, thanks for the input ladies, it is much appreciated! I hope to hear back from you soon!
My experience with Weight Watchers is that they want to keep the customers overweight so they keep coming back to spend loads of cash on their (nasty) processed foods. They are coached on how to hit a customer's particular emotional triggers to keep them coming back for more, even if the weight isn't coming off. Yes, people usually lose weight at WW but realistically, no one is going to eat that WW food for life (and MAN it's expensive). What I think is better is a complete lifestyle change and learning to make REAL food work for you in weight loss (as that's the food you'll be eating for the rest of your life). Just my two cents.
Pulled from my bio on this site:
I joined Weight Watchers the summer after freshman year of college (I managed to gain 40lbs, going from 125 to 165 in just one academic year). My mom and I did it together. It was easy to go to the meetings because I was home from college. We made veggie soup every weekend together and that helped keep us on track. I also was very fortunate and had the WW national best spokeswomen at my local meeting place. AND SHE WAS AMAZING! I dropped 30lbs in one summer (working 4 jobs helped keep me active too).
Sophomore year of college I was a comfortable 132 lbs (my goal had been 125 but i reassessed it after i realized it wasn't realistic for me anymore since I was no longer an active athlete). I also was babysitting 5 nights a week and did not have much control over when and what I ate.
I set my WW lifetime goal at 132 but found myself struggling to maintain that weight (Philly Cheesesteaks and cheese fries didn't help). I was practically starving myself before weigh-in day because I was embarrassed to get on the scale and see that I went over the +/- allowance = and then have to pay the $$$. I decided to put my WW membership on hold. One of the reasons: the meeting place by my college was nothing like the one in my hometown - not as supportive of a group nor motivating. I never looked forward to the meetings, unlike my meetings back at home.
By the time I graduated college I was back up around 145lbs. Living at home and working in NYC, I decided to go back to WW. Commuting to and from the city for 4 hrs every day made it impossible to go to meetings, make weigh-ins and get the motivation i needed. I let myself gain even more weight, and threw in the towel.
NOW - here I am on this site and I have been successful - slowly, but definitely losing. I joined Calorie-Count because it is everywhere I am and it is there whenever I need it. The users on this site are knowledgeable, caring, supportive and all working towards the same thing: a healthy weight and lifestyle.
The WW program did teach me the basics on portion control and that everything is OK but in MODERATION. I was at such low eating points that I always ran out of them, only 18-20pts a day of food = not much! I definitely learned a lot, but it just didn't offer me everything I needed.
If you're not spending the money and are already counting calories anyways it can't hurt to take a peek at the points correlation to see if that helps you "tweak" your program. Although, I will say that the program helps me the most with portion control (my biggest problem) and if you're already eating below your BMR, you probably have your portions controlled.
You might want to think about adding some resistance exercises or weight training to your program. (If you're not already.) Sometimes that can help you burn calories more efficiently and break through a plateau.
I did WW, but I did only the on-line part, so I didn't go to meetings and all. It really was kind of similar to this only you're counting points instead of cals. It was really good for me - I lost 30 lbs and was a size 4. I kept it off for over 3 years, but now I'm starting to gain it back. My problem is that I stopped being strict and didn't measure/journal everything that I ate, so the weight is slowly creeping back on. The only reason I didn't join again this time is that it's pretty expensive, and when I found this site I thought I might be able to do it for free.
You don't have to buy their food - you can caluculate the points for anything as long as you know the cal, fat, & fiber. It's easy, but you have to be strict & measure & count everything.
WW did get me to pay more attention to what I was eating. For example, I got 25 points a day and one day I ate an Otis Spunkmeyer muffin. I didn't calculate the points before I ate it - I mean it's just a muffin, how bad could it be? Well, when I calculated the points, it came up as 18 points for one muffin! I almost cried - that was almost my entire days worth of points! Needless to say, I've not eaten an Otis Spunkmeyer muffin since then! I've had other similar situations as well, so it got me thinking about how some things are just not worth the calories.
Good luck! Sometimes when you change things up, you can get over that plateau!
I just obsessed over points all the time. Also foods that they taught to you being 'healthy' turned out not to really be (like popcorn - it's ok in moderation but wreaks havoc on your digestive system if you eat too much of it - I was eating it EVERY day). I also found ways to 'cheat' the system. I learned how to eat enough points to maintain my weight, but not enough to lose or gain. Plus, as one other person mentioned in her post - the meetings became mundane. In the beginning it was a great way to lose weight and then after a while it became a chore - the counting and the journaling - writing everything down. What a freakin pain. If you didn't write one day, it could throw your whole week off.
Plus at meetings I started to feel sorry for the women around me. Sure there were a few really amazing stories - people who had lost 200-300lbs and kept it off for X years - but mostly it was just women coming back again and again because they had never really learned how to eat correctly once they stopped using the points system.
BTW - when I first started on here, I did try the 'count calories and points' as you are doing, and things were very close. I found I liked CC better because it is based on all the nutritional information not just fat, fiber, and calories.
GOOD LUCK regardless of whatever program you choose to follow.
I too have done ww with success, as long as you stay on program, however after losing 50# I hit a plateau that lasted over 6 months. After finding CC I found that I was not eating near enough, and by adding in additional eliptical training I was not improving the weight loss, I was hindering it. So I've been on CC following a much higher calorie diet since January and have finally lost 10# in 8 weeks.
Weight watchers doesn't teach you about chronic yo-yo dieting, or how you can gain weight by not eating enough. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad program, but it's not enough.
One thing that I don't do is eating less than my BMR, but that is a whole different forum.
I did weight watchers and lost about 28lbs, but i was ALWAYS hungry and i don't think the diet encouraged you to eat healthy natural foods or take into account exercise and fitness !
I've tried every diet going. The only one that i have found that i enjoy is the Rosemary Conley Diet which is based on a low fat diet incorporating all the food groups and counting calories. It really works for me!
I did WW two years ago and lost 25 pounds. I did the flex program (counting points) instead of the core (focuses on eating whole foods, and weekly point allowances for non-core foods). Honestly I loved the program as what I needed to focus on was portion control and counting points did that for me. I never bought the food and always focused more on eating whole foods. Admittedly I had a great leader at the meeting who was all about encouraging people and passing on useful information.
So, why am I here? Well I've gained most most of the weight back when I stopped counting points, and realized I needed a program to lose again. I didn't want to go back to WW because I didn't want to pay for the meetings again. Still, I have nothing bad to say about WW.
I have never seen food sold at meetings, your thinking of Jenny Craig.
I loved weight watchers I used it several years ago to loose 40 lbs for my wedding and it worked, until that last 5-10lbs. They have a sound program.
BUT if your not going to the meeting and just using their tools it's not going to help you, their concept is the same as CC. With more fiber emphasis. I would suggest zig zaging your calories for a month and see how you do.
I have done WW and have lost weight but I find myself being too restrictive with my points. For me CC is so much better.
My sister goes to WW meetings with her friend and they both do fantastic. She has learned portions and light cooking from her meetings (we often share recipes) For her it's better.
I think it really depends on your support group and who runs the meetings. I don't have the extra cash for meetings and I love being here lurking.
Best of luck to you.
There has always been WW food sold at WW meetings whenever i have gone to them.
cwolf - thats interesting what you say about WW point correspondence to calories as i too decided to work out what my points would have been for one day on the Rosemary Conley diet that im following at the mo. I'm currently in the fat burning fortnight so the calorie intake is only 1200 a day, then it increases, but yesterday i had my full 1200 plus about 22 cals over. I didn't feel hungry at all as the foods that you eat are low GI carbs and good helpings of protein. Anyway, my friend was saying that WW was more her thing and that it really worked for her, but i was saying that i was always hungry on it. She told me what she had eaten for her 21 points a day. It didn't seem enough so i worked out how many points in WW i had had on my 1200 Rosemary Conley cals a day. Turns out i had 28 points, which suggests that on WW for some people you must only be eating 1000 cals a day - way too few! That may work for very heavy pepel initially, but what about those of us who hav eless than a stone to lose. I todl her this and she said that in fact, WW have a policy that in order to join you MUST have at least 10% of your current body weight to lose.